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SubjectRe: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3
On 6/19/07, Jan Harkes <> wrote:
> You keep referring to the four freedoms so I googled for them and found
> So which of the freedoms did Tivo take away?
> * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
> * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to
> your needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a
> precondition for this.
> * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
> (freedom 2).
> * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements
> to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3).
> Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
> It doesn't seem to me they took away freedoms 1, 2 or 3. They released
> the source to any free software components and we can study, modify,
> redistribute, improve and release our improvements for the benefit of
> the whole community.
> btw. freedom 3 seems to be just repeating what we already got from
> freedoms 1 and 2.
> So the only one we could differ in opinion about is freedom 0. I would
> say that they in no way are limiting my use of the Linux kernel (which
> is the part I mostly care about) I can run the program for any purpose I
> see fit. What if I want to run mythtv on my PC at home? Tivo has no
> control whether or not I can do so even when my kernel contains any of
> their modification or improvements, so I claim that I in fact retained
> freedom 0.

Much as I hate to extend the life of this execrable thread, since I
think Alexandre makes Sisyphus look like a hard-nosed pragmatist, it
seems pretty clear that TiVO impinges "[my] freedom to run the
program, for any purpose" if "any purpose" includes "make my TiVO do
what I want," and likewise to "adapt it to [my] needs" -- freedoms 0
and part of 1. It is just disingenuous to argue otherwise.

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