Messages in this thread | | | Date | Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:45:08 +0200 | From | Adrian Bunk <> | Subject | Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)) |
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On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:41:36AM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: > Hi all, > > Adrian Bunk pisze: >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: >>> ... >>> [Adrian, I'm not saying "too few users run -rc kernels", I'm saying "too >>> few FireWire driver users run -rc kernels".] >> Getting more people testing -rc kernels might be possible, and I don't >> think it would be too hard. And not only FireWire would benefit from this, >> remember e.g. that at least 2 out of the last 5 kernels Linus released >> contained filesystem corruption regressions. >> The problem is that we aren't able to handle the many regression reports >> we get today, so asking for more testing and regression reports today >> would attack it at the wrong part of the chain. >> Additionally, every reported and unhandled regression will frustrate the >> reporter - never forget that we have _many_ unhandled bug reports >> (including but not limited to regression reports) where the submitter >> spent much time and energy in writing a good bug report. >> If we somehow gain the missing manpower for debugging regressions we can >> actively ask for more testing. Missing manpower (of people knowing some >> part of the kernel well) for debugging bug reports is IMHO the one big >> source of quality problems in the Linux kernel. If we get this solved, >> things like getting more testers for -rc kernels will become low hanging >> fruits. > > Adrian, I agree with _all_ your points. > > I bet that developers will hate me for this. > > Please consider for 2.6.23
Fine with me, but:
There are not so simple cases like big infrastructure patches with 20 other patches in the tree depending on it causing a regression, or even worse, a big infrastructure patch exposing a latent old bug in some completely different area of the kernel.
And we should be aware that reverting is only a workaround for the real problem which lies in our bug handling.
> Regards, > Michal >...
cu Adrian
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