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SubjectRe: [PATCH] libata: warn if speed limited due to 40-wire cable (v2)
Stephen Clark wrote:
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
>> Stephen Clark wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Alan Cox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> it seems broken to manipulate xfer_mask after returning from the
>>>>>> driver's ->mode_filter hook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this patch is more than just a speed-limited warning printk, afaics
>>>>>>
>>>>> I actually suggested that order because the only way the printk
>>>>> can be
>>>>> done correctly is for it to be the very last test made. Since the
>>>>> mode
>>>>> filter is not told what mode will be used but just subtracts modes
>>>>> that
>>>>> are not allowed this should be safe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Far better to have a drive which works slowly than one which works
>>>> unreliably.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That would be true if the 40 wire detection was 100% accurate!
>>>
>> The statement is completely correct, even though the detection may
>> not be. ;-)
>>
>> With the current set(s) of patches to do better detection, cable
>> evaluation should be better. But even if not, a slow system is more
>> useful than one which doesn't work, crashes because of swap i/o
>> errors, etc.
>>
>>
>>
> I have had problems with cable detection on my previous laptop and my
> current laptop. It almost made
> my systems unusable. On my current laptop I was getting a thruput of a
> little over 1 mbps instead
> of the 44 mbps I get with udma set to the correct value. It took hours
> to upgrade my laptop from
> fc5 to fc6 because of this mis detection.
>
As far as I can see, if you are getting that low a speed, you have other
problems. I have a system with old slow drives which are really on a 40
pin cable, and they run at UDMA(33). One of the experts in this can
undoubtedly tell us more, but your system should run faster than that,
mine does, and I really HAVE a 40 pin cable (and drive).

If your system drops to PIO modes, I doubt cable is the only issue, I
think there are other issues (acpi comes to mind).

--
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
CTO TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979

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