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    DateMon, 5 Mar 2007 02:05:08 +0100
    FromAdrian Bunk <>
    SubjectRe: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)
    On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:45:25PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
    > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:25:50 -0600 Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com> wrote:
    > 
    > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:39:24AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
    > > > [adding linux-wireless to CC]
    > > > 
    > > > On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote:
    > > > > Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly
    > > > > related problems:
    > > > 
    > > > I don't think they are related actually.
    > > > 
    > > > > a) NetworkManager seems oblivious to the existence of my IPW2200
    > > > 
    > > > This is due to the recent sysfs restructuring I think. IIRC the fix is
    > > > to upgrade hal to a current git version.
    > > 
    > > If that's the cause, the fix is to back out whatever was done to break
    > > userspace. Breaking userspace is not ok. Upgrading from 2.6.x to
    > > 2.6.x+1 should not entail replacing substantial parts of userspace,
    > > especially with NOT-EVEN-FRAKKING-RELEASED-YET CODE. 
    > 
    > yep.  Adrian, I think we should track this as a blocking regression, at
    > least until we've fully understood the implications and had the usual
    > arguments.
    
    I'm currently tracking it as one of the 31 2.6.21-rc regressions that 
    are not yet fixed in Linus' tree, and for me each of them is a blocker
    until proven otherwise.
    
    Whether Linus releases 2.6.21 despite blocking regressions is a 
    different question...
    cu
    Adrian
    
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