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SubjectRe: [PATCH] Bias the location of pages freed for min_free_kbytes in the same MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES blocks
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:35:36 +0000 (GMT) Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
>
>>> But let me leap ahead of myself.
>>>
>>>> CONFIG_PAGE_GROUP_BY_MOBILITY
>>>
>>> Why does this config item exist? It's not good to have some mysterious
>>> knob which affects mm behaviour at compile time. We need to make up our
>>> minds and stick with it.
>>>
>>
>> The configuration item exists because there were concerns over the memory
>> footprint and cache line footprint. It was introduced to address that
>> concern and also so that it would be possible to compare the performance
>> behavior of anti-fragmentation. Your comment rang a bell though so I
>> searched the archives to see this comment from Andi Kleen;
>>
>> ===
>> If anything this should be a boot time option or perhaps sysctl, not a
>> config. In general CONFIGs that change runtime behaviour are evil - just
>> makes changing the option more painful, causes problems for distribution
>> users, doesn't make much sense, etc.etc.
>>
>> Also #ifdef as a documentation device is a really really scary concept.
>> Yuck.
>> ===
>>
>> A sysctl would avoid any cache line footprint but not the memory overhead
>> because the freelists in struct zone as those freelists would still exist.
>> I could make the option depend on CONFIG_EMBEDDED for the zone overhead.
>> Would that make sense or would it be preferable to ditch the option
>> altogether?
>>
>> I'll start looking at doing a sysctl so it can be disabled at runtime if
>> necessary. I strongly suspect that it cannot be enabled again once
>> disabled but I don't see that as a problem as such.
>
> How much additional memory consumption are we expecting here?
>

Short answer, about 1.5KB on a 1GB system of which 1.3KB is statically
defined in the 3 struct zones on a 1 node x86 system.

Longer answer that I hopefully have not made any mistakes in - There is
the zone overhead which is statically sized and a runtime overhead which
depends on the amount of memory in the system. The additional zone
overhead is the overhead for additional freelists (larger struct
free_area) and is as follows;

(MIGRATE_TYPES-1) * sizeof(list_head) * (MAX_ORDER-1)

so, on 32 bit in general, thats

4 * 8 * 10 = 320 bytes per zone (would be 240 bytes if MIGRATE_RESERVE is
sufficient for higher order allocations
instead of MIGRATE_HIGHALLOC)

on x86 with DMA, Normal and HighMem, thats 1280 bytes. On a NUMA system,
it's 1280 bytes per node. On 64 bit, it would be double because of the
larger pointer size. At worst, I guess you are looking at 3KB per node.

The size of the bitmap for the flags depends on the amount of memory. On
FLATMEM and DISCONTIG, it's 3 bits per MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES spanned by the
zones (note spanned, not present). On a 1GiB system without holes on an
x86 with MAX_ORDER of 11, that would be 96 bytes. The calculation is more
complex for sparsemem but will be at least 4 bytes per active section for
a pointer and another 4 bytes for most bitmaps. I have a patch that uses
the pointer itself when the bitmap is small enough to be contained in 4
bytes (which is usually is) so it could be just 4 bytes per active section
(4 bytes per 16MB on powerpc for example).

> Whether it's runtime or compile-time, the optionality is not good.
>

The main situation where I think it would be desirable to disable
anti-fragmentation is for zones that are smaller than
MIGRATE_TYPES*MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES and this is for performance reasons to
avoid regularly entering __rmqueue_fallback(). However, that situation
could be automatically detected and handled by having
allocflags_to_migratetype() always return MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE for small
zones and similar for get_pageblock_migratetype(). There would be no need
for a sysctl.

If a sysctl was available for cases where profiles showed a problem with
the bitmap for example, it would work by having
allocflags_to_migratetype() and get_pageblock_migratetype() always return
MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE so it would not be totally different code paths that are
being executed in the enabled/disabled cases.

--
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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