Messages in this thread |  | | | Subject | Re: [PATCH] remove throttle_vm_writeout() | | From | Peter Zijlstra <> | | Date | Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:32:57 +0200 | |
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 16:09 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:39:16 +0200> Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
>
> > > throttle_vm_writeout() should be a per-zone thing, I guess. Perhaps fixing
> > > that would fix your deadlock. That's doubtful, but I don't know anything
> > > about your deadlock so I cannot say.> > > > No, doing the throttling per-zone won't in itself fix the deadlock.
> > > > Here's a deadlock example:> > > > Total memory = 32M> > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_ratio = 10> > dirty_threshold = 3M> > ratelimit_pages = 1M> > > > Some program dirties 4M (dirty_threshold + ratelimit_pages) of mmap on
> > a fuse fs. Page balancing is called which turns all these into
> > writeback pages.> > > > Then userspace filesystem gets a write request, and tries to allocate
> > memory needed to complete the writeout.> > > > That will possibly trigger direct reclaim, and throttle_vm_writeout()
> > will be called. That will block until nr_writeback goes below 3.3M
> > (dirty_threshold + 10%). But since all 4M of writeback is from the
> > fuse fs, that will never happen.> > > > Does that explain it better?> >
>
> yup, thanks.
>
> This is a somewhat general problem: a userspace process is in the IO path.
> Userspace block drivers, for example - pretty much anything which involves
> kernel->userspace upcalls for storage applications.
>
> I solved it once in the past by marking the userspace process as
> PF_MEMALLOC and I beleive that others have implemented the same hack.
>
> I suspect that what we need is a general solution, and that the solution
> will involve explicitly telling the kernel that this process is one which
> actually cleans memory and needs special treatment.
>
> Because I bet there will be other corner-cases where such a process needs
> kernel help, and there might be optimisation opportunities as well.
>
> Problem is, any such mark-me-as-special syscall would need to be
> privileged, and FUSE servers presently don't require special perms (do
> they?)
I think just adding nr_cpus * ratelimit_pages to the dirth_thresh in
throttle_vm_writeout() will also solve the problem
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