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SubjectRe: [RFC] How to (automatically) find the correct maintainer(s)
Stefan Richter wrote:
> On 13 Jan, Richard Knutsson wrote:
>
>> Stefan Richter wrote:
>>
>>> On 13 Jan, Richard Knutsson wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>
>>>> SUPERCOOL ALPHA CARD
>>>>
>>>> P: Clark Kent
>>>> M: superman@krypton.kr
>>>> L: some@thing.com
>>>> C: SUPER_A
>>>> S: Maintained
>>>> (C: for CONFIG. Any better idea?)
>>>>
>>>> then if someone changes a file who are built with CONFIG_SUPER_A, can
>>>> easily backtrack it to the correct maintainer(s).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>
>>>> My first idea was to use the pathway and define that directories above
>>>> the specified (if not specified by another) would fall to the current
>>>> maintainer. It would work, but requires that all pathways be specified
>>>> at once, or a few maintainers with "short" pathways would get much of
>>>> the patches (and it is not as correct/easy to maintain as looking for
>>>> the CONFIG_flag).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on this is very much appreciated (is there any flaws with
>>>> this?).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> - What about drivers which have no MAINTAINER entry but reside in a
>>> subsystem with MAINTAINER entry?
>>>
>>>
>> Hmm, how are those drivers built? Can you please point me to one?
>>
>
> I believe you read too quickly what I wrote, didn't you? :-)
> The MAINTAINER file doesn't influence how drivers are built.
>
What the... now I have no idea why I deleted the previous text... oh
well, I tried 'grep -Er "^M\:" */*' but did not find any such entries.
Or did you mean files just stating "I maintaining this file"?
At least I know so much about the building-process that I don't think
MAINTAINER is involved :). It was meant as: how is a driver build
without some CONFIG_-flag set, but not sure now what I wanted with that
(blaming low blood-suger, got a pizza since then).
>>> - What if these drivers depend on two subsystems?
>>>
>>>
>> Not sure if I understand the problem. I don't see the maintainers for
>> the subsystems too interested in a driver, and it is the drivers
>> maintainer we want.
>>
>
> I am specifically thinking of drivers which are maintained by the
> subsystem maintainers. (Well, see below...)
>
More then one subsystem maintainers that is maintainers to a driver? I
would think one off those would quite naturally become the maintainer of
the driver and then accepting patches from the rest.
> Besides, the subsystem maintainer could point the submitter to a
> more appropriate channel or ignore the submitter. (A submitter who
> feels ignored is hopefully doing some more research then.) Also,
> a driver maintainer certainly reads the mailinglist to which the
> submitter posted.
>
Hopefully, but I think it is asking much of the maintainer and then
there will certanly be confused/frustrated submitter who don't know why
they don't get any answer nor patched included. We have already seen a
few asking about what happened with their patches.
>>> - Config options map to object files but do not map directly to source
>>> files. Diffstats show source files.
>>>
>>>
>> Can you make a object-file out of 2 c-files? Using Makefile?
>>
>
> Yes, you can, although I don't know if it is directly done in the
> kernel build system. Of course what is often done is to make n object
> files out of n c files, then link them to make 1 object file.
>
How?:
gcc -c test.c test2.c -o test3.o
gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S with multiple files
(with only -c i got test.o and test2.o)

In the kernel building system, an object-file is made from a c- or
s-file with the same name. Then, of course, they can be put together to
a larger object-file.
>>> Example: The sbp2 driver is an IEEE 1394 driver and a SCSI driver.
>>> sbp2.o is enabled by CONFIG_IEEE1394_SBP2 which depends on
>>> CONFIG_IEEE1394 and CONFIG_SCSI. sbp2.c resides in drivers/ieee1394/.
>>> What is the algorithm to look up sbp2's maintainers?
>>>
>>>
>> The one listed for CONFIG_IEEE1394_SBP2 :)
>>
>
> ...OK, we /could/ write
>
> IEEE 1394 SUBSYSTEM
> C: IEEE1394
> C: IEEE1394_OHCI1394
> C: IEEE1394_SBP2
> C: IEEE1394_DV1394 /* would better be put into a new own entry due to different status of maintenance level */
> C: IEEE1394_VIDEO1394 /* that one perhaps too */
> L: linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> P: Ben and me
> [...]
> IEEE 1394 IPV4 DRIVER (eth1394)
> C: IEEE1394_ETH1394
> [...]
>
What about possibility to replace it with:

C: IEEE1394*

and use the same system as with the path-approach, "longest wins". (I
don't think just IEEE1394 is appropriate, since then there is
possibility with false-positives again)
> On the other hand, we could write
>
> IEEE 1394 SUBSYSTEM
> F: drivers/ieee1394
> L: linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> P: Ben and me
> [...]
> IEEE 1394 IPV4 DRIVER (eth1394)
> F: drivers/ieee1394/eth1394
> [...]
>
> If it was done the latter way, i.e. using F: not C:, it could be
> made a rule that the more specific entries come after more generic
> entries. Thus the last match of multiple matches is the proper one.
> In any case, the longest match is the proper one.
>
As I wrote in the initial mail, my first idea was like that. But how to
solve when different drivers (with of course different maintainers) lies
in the same directory?
I thought something like include/linux/config.h,autoconf.h could be used
when referring to a few specific files in a directory. But there is also
the problem that all mails were the maintainer has no F: will fall in
the lap of the "good" maintainer with the shorter pathway, and I'm
afraid this might make people hesitant to add the F:.
>
>> But what about ex ieee1394_core.o? Is ieee1394-objs "equal" to
>> ieee1394.o? (Seems I need to read some Makefile docs...)
>>
>
> Yes and yes. (Documentation/kbuild/makefiles.txt)
>
Thanks
>> (Btw, what I can see, there is no possibility to get the wrong
>> maintainer. Just that sometime it can't give you an answer and you have
>> to do it in the old way).
>>
>
> Your approach could give a wrong answer if someone implements a
> very "clever" mapping. My approach could give a wrong answer if
> someone takes a generic match while there was a more specific
> match.
>
> Your approach requires to evaluate the diffstat, one or more
> Makefile (taking the Linux Makefile syntax into account), and the
> MAINTAINERS file. My approach just requires to evaluate the
> diffstat and the MAINTAINERS file.
>
Can't disagree on any. It is just the problems with false-positives and
picking out specific files that made me reconsider.

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