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    SubjectRe: [PATCH 3/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 3/4: introduce new capabilities
    Casey Schaufler wrote:
    > --- Joshua Brindle <method@gentoo.org> wrote:
    >
    >
    >> And that is just practical stuff, there are still
    >> problems with
    >> embedding policy into binaries all over the system
    >> in an entirely
    >> non-analyzable way, and this extends to all
    >> capabilities, not just the
    >> open() one.
    >>
    >
    > Your assertion that directly associating
    > the capabilities with the binary cannot
    > be analysed is demonstrably incorrect,
    > reference Common Criteria validation
    > reports CCEVS-VR-02-0019 and CCEVS-VR-02-0020.
    >
    > The first system I took through evaluation
    > (that is, independent 3rd party analysis) stored
    > security attributes in a file while the second
    > and third systems attached the attributes
    > directly (XFS). The 1st evaluation required
    > 5 years, the 2nd 1 year. It is possible that
    > I just got a lot smarter with age, but I
    > ascribe a significant amount of the improvement
    > to the direct association of the attributes
    > to the file.
    Thats great but entirely irrelevant in this context. The patch and caps
    in question are not attached to the file via some externally observable
    property (eg., xattr) but instead are embedded in the source code so
    that it can drop caps at certain points during the execution or before
    executing another app, thus unanalyzable.
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