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    SubjectRe: Adrian Bunk is now taking over the 2.6.16-stable branch
    Hi Adrian,

    On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 01:00:17AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
    > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 09:43:06PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
    > > On 8/3/06, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
    > > >This is just a notice to everyone that Adrian is going to now be taking
    > > >over the 2.6.16-stable kernel branch, for him to maintain for as long as
    > > >he wants to.
    > >
    > > Adrian, could you provide a bit of rationale as to why you want to do
    > > this? I'm just curious.
    >
    > A long-term maintained stable series was missing in the current
    > development model.
    >
    > The 2.6 series itself is theoretically a stable series, but the amount
    > of regressions is too big for some users.

    Well, I really wish you success on this project. I completely agree on the
    need of a 2.4-like model to stabilize one branch of 2.6, and you probably
    remember that we've been talking about this 1 or 2 years ago, when I found
    it too hard to be started alone. It takes a very long time but apparently
    succeeds in the long term. I think it will quickly become a hard work because
    patches will get harder and harder to apply, and sometimes you'll have to
    adapt them a lot. But there's nothing impossible, I've been backporting
    fixes from 2.6 to 2.4 for a long time, so 2.6 to 2.6 should be feasible.

    However, I hope that you realize that (if you succeed), your work might
    become a basis for some distros, as well as for some admins who will try
    to switch from 2.4 to 2.6. I mean, people will be *relying* on you to get
    fixes.

    But for this, you will have to be seen as a serious person, and avoid
    childish fighting with other kernel developpers, such as this :

    > Gentoo kernels are 42 times more popular than SUSE kernels among
    > KLive users (a service by SUSE contractor Andrea Arcangeli that
    > gathers data about kernels from many users worldwide).

    People who know the history will take this a as the teenager trying to
    take revenge on the other guy who stole his girlfriend, and people not
    aware of the history will take this for Gentoo advertisement based on
    the work of your good friend Andrea who is so much honnest that he doesn't
    mind publishing such results. In both cases, I think this is not what
    you're looking for, and it does not make you look like the serious guy
    on whom we can rely to get a stable kernel. At best, it will be used to
    show that Andrea is unbiased, which is exactly what is expected for the
    role you're taking.

    And BTW, you'll look ridiculous when you'll post changelogs which will
    start with fixes from Andrea and will end with this signature ! Or maybe
    you'll decide to refuse his patches, which is a dangerous game when the
    original goal is to stabilize some code. I hope that everyone will grow
    up in order not to tarnish linux's image. There are already a few debian
    extremists to make us look like immature geeks in enterprise contexts,
    I think we don't need more of this.

    Best wishes with 2.6.16,
    Willy

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