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SubjectRe: Which is simpler? (Was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: [ 00/10] [Suspend2] Modules support.)
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Hi.

On Tuesday 07 February 2006 04:48, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 15:43 +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Monday 06 February 2006 14:34, Lee Revell wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 14:02 +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > > > (they now have to download extra
> > > > libraries to use the splashscreen, which were not required with
> > > > the bootsplash patch, and need to check whether an update to the
> > > > userui code
> > > > is required when updating the kernel)
> > >
> > > You could have avoided this problem by keeping the
> > > userspace<->kernel interface stable.
> >
> > True, but sometimes you need to make changes that do modify the
> > interface. If the interface involves more functionality, this will
> > happen more frequently.
>
> Well, all I can say is, it should have been obvious that putting a
> themeable UI in the kernel would not fly.

Agreed, but I think we have some confusion here.

I was talking about interactions between kernel space and userspace after
we started using the userspace interface. In particular, I was thinking of
the fact that the netlink message number kept changing due to changes in
the vanilla kernel. In the end, we just made it a command line option to
the userui.

My point for this conversation was different, though. If uswsusp ever does
fly, there are going to be flag days where users are going to have to
download new userspace code, perhaps new versions of libraries or new
libraries, run the compilation and reconfigure their initrds/ram-fses, all
just because they upgraded their kernel and want to continue to suspend to
disk. That is extra complexity introduced by using a userspace 'brain'
instead of having it in kernelspace.

Regards,

Nigel

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