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    SubjectRe: e1000/ICH8LAN weirdness - no ethtool link until initially forced up
    On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 07:51:22AM -0800, Auke Kok wrote:
    > Your application should really `ifconfig up` the device before checking for
    > link.

    And for those of us with laptops, application authors should do an
    "ifconfig down" the device if it doesn't find a link. Right now
    thanks to such applications on my desktop, I boot with e1000
    blacklisted so I can run in low-power mode when on a laptop.

    BTW, it would be nice if the e1000 driver could be more safely
    unloaded when it is built as a module. Yeah, the right answer is that
    the gnome desktop is made less power hungry, and there are other
    things I can do such as kill -STOP various bits of the gnome desktop
    when I am running in battery mode, but it would be nice if I could
    forcibly down the e1000 driver, and right not simply keeping the
    module unloaded is the most reliably way of doing it in the face of
    desktop applets that don't care about how much power they are sucking

    - Ted
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