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    SubjectRe: [PATCH] i386-pda UP optimization
    Ingo Molnar wrote:
    > i said this before: using segmentation tricks these days is /insane/.
    > Segmentation is not for free, and it's not going to be cheap in the
    > future. In fact, chances are that it will be /more/ expensive in the
    > future, because sane OSs just make no use of them besides the trivial
    > "they dont even exist" uses.

    Many, many systems use %fs/%gs to implement some kind of thread-local
    storage, and such usage is becoming more common; the PDA's use of it in
    the kernel is no different. I would agree that using all the obscure
    corners of segmentation is just asking for trouble, but using %gs as an
    address offset seems like something that's going to be efficient on x86
    32/64 processors indefinitely.

    > so /at a minimum/, as i suggested it before, the kernel's segment use
    > should not overlap that of glibc's. I.e. the kernel should use %fs, not
    > %gs.

    Last time you raised this I did a pretty comprehensive set of tests
    which showed there was flat out zero difference between using %fs and
    %gs. There doesn't seem to be anything to the theory that reloading a
    null segment selector is in any way cheaper than loading a real
    selector. Did you find a problem in my methodology?

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