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SubjectRe: PATCH: IDE - sensible probing for PCI systems
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, Alan Cox wrote:

> > > Old ISA/VESA systems sometimes put tertiary IDE controllers at addresses
> > > 0x1e8, 0x168, 0x1e0 or 0x160. Linux thus probes these addresses on x86
> > > systems. Unfortunately some PCI systems now use these addresses for
> > > other purposes which leads to users seeing minute plus hangs during boot
> > > or even crashes.
> >
> > Are these addresses visible in BARs?
>
> Sometimes but often not. They tend to be below the PCI range used by the
> systems but belonging to onboard "magic"

How is the range defined -- is there a way for us to find it? I'd assume
in the absence of a PCI-ISA or PCI-EISA bridge all I/O port addresses
belong to PCI. Otherwise the usual rule of "(addr & 0x300) == 0" applies.
Perhaps with the addition of "(addr & ~0xff) != 0" for safety as junk I/O
is often not recorded properly in BARs, sigh...

> > FYI, for MIPS for machines with a PCI bus we only probe for ISA IDE ports
> > on if there's a PCI-ISA or PCI-EISA bridge somewhere there. This might be
> > a good idea for the i386 and probably any platform using PCI as well.
>
> The primary/secondary ISA ports show up in PC systems because of the PCI
> IDE class devices being in compatibility mode not native mode (so you
> can still run old OS's). There are also a couple of older weird cases.

Certainly, but as long as they are seen as IDE devices on PCI, our driver
can discover them and use without the need of probing through
ide_default_io_base().

> The PCI layer code is smart enough to figure out when a PCI and an ISA
> probe find the same device and to put the entire thing together properly
> so that aspect of it is ok.

Sure.

> For the 3rd and higher ports probing them isn't safe on a PCI box
> regardless of the presence of ISA bridges so I don't think we need the
> extra complexity - or am I missing something ?

The code is OK with me, but I've been wondering whether a more general
approach would be possible. And poking blindly at any of these ports,
including the "traditional" primary and secondary IDE interfaces, is
unsafe if there is no legacy bridge in the system, because you either hit
an innocent arbitrary device that happens to have a BAR configured for
that range or get a master abort (I'm not sure what it results in for the
i386 -- an NMI?) if nobody listens.

Actually there should have always been a set of BARs for the (E)ISA in
legacy bridges, which would have made the whole mess be avoided, sigh...

Maciej
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