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    SubjectRe: RT patch acceptance
    On Wed, 25 May 2005 08:33:06 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:

    > i agree in theory, but interestingly, people who use the -RT branch do
    > report a smoother desktop experience. While it might also be a
    > psychological effect, under -RT an interactive X process has the same
    > kind of latency properties as if all of the mouse pointer input and
    > rendering was done in the kernel (like some other desktop OSs do).

    The only way to actually know if it really makes a difference or not
    would be to run a double-blind test, with people not knowing if
    they're running a RT kernel or not, and then reporting their
    experience re. desktop smoothness. But I doubt such a test could
    actually be taken into consideration, unless distributions start
    shipping with different kernels without the user knowing, and then ask
    about how it feels ...

    This all being said, esp. concerning the next point you rise

    > so in terms of mouse pointer 'smoothness', it might very well be
    > possible for humans to detect a couple of msec delays visually - even
    > though they are unable to notice those delays directly. (Isnt there some
    > existing research on this?)

    IIRC, there have been (I'm not sure if there still are) some issues
    with IRQs being lost on the input devices, missing keys, missing
    events or misbehaving of mice and similar ... would these problems
    (and the underlying issues in the codepaths) be more easy or harder to
    happen and to trace if they happened?

    Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain
    a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty
    nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

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