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SubjectRe: enabling IOAPIC on C3 processor? (how to investigate hangs without nmi watchdog)
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:34:55 +0100, Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@csd.uu.se> wrote:
> jerome lacoste writes:
> > I have a VIA Epia M10000 board that crashes very badly (and pretty
> > often, especially when using DMA). I want to fix that.
> >
> > Serial console + magic SysRQ didn't help so I am going the nmi
> > watchdog way. But in order to have nmi watchdog I need APIC, right?
> >
> > The C3 processor seems to support IOAPIC.
> > (http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/processors/c3/specs.jsp)
> >
> > But:
> > - I don't see anything in the BIOS related to APIC.
> > - grep APIC /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/.config shows me that all
> > APIC options are 'y'.
> > - dmesg | grep APIC tells me "no local APIC present or hardware disabled".
> > - adding lapic kernel parameter doesn't change that.
> > - and of course, nmi_watchdog=1 or 2 gives me NMI count 0 in /proc/interrupts.
> >
> > Did I miss something when it comes to enabling IOAPIC support on C3 processor?
>
> Unless you have a pre-release engineering part for a future product,
> then your C3 has no local APIC, and hence no I/O APIC functionality.
>
> I know some C3 specs pages list I/O APIC support, but if you look in
> the datasheets for current products you find zero APIC support.

My board is 2 years old (May 2003).

I've checked the specs [2] and they say (page 17 out of 83)
"APIC will be available in future steppings." Yeah right...

Mine is stepping 1 according to /proc/cpuinfo.

So if I don't have APIC, that means I cannot use nmi_watchdog to
investigate the problem, right?

Do I have any alternative to investigate this hang or should I just
give up and smash my board?

Cheers,

Jerome

[2] http://www.via.com.tw/en/downloads/datasheets/processors/c3_nehemiah.zip
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