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    On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:38:20 PST, "David S. Miller" wrote:
    > From: Gerrit Huizenga <gh@us.ibm.com>
    > Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:30:18 -0800
    >
    > > OSDL.org has no desire to advocate binary drivers in any way and I
    > > don't expect that they will do anything to educate or influence their
    > > members or the global vendor/IHV/developer communities to use binary
    > > drivers. Further, I expect they will do exactly the opposite, in
    > > particular, educate members, developers, IHV's on how to deploy
    > > open source drivers and the benefits of doing so.
    >
    > You might want to read the following before stating such
    > things:
    >
    > http://www.kroah.com/log/2005/11/03/#osdl_gkai
    >
    > Thanks.

    I have read that and in fact I was at that meeting. That was a case
    where we had spent some time trying to convince member companies that
    a stable kernel API was not going to happen. They did not believe it.
    Greg and others came in and expressed directly to those people their
    viewpoints. That has helped and the companies in question are still
    thinking about their future strategy. Greg had an impact where OSDL
    members (myself included) were simply viewed as expressing a radical
    opinion which reality would change.

    This whole concept of drivers being broken has been painful for everyone
    and people are still trying to apply traditional solutions. The kernel
    communities solution solves a piece of the problem (not the distro portion
    of the problem) but the continuing education on a pardaigm shift seems
    to be unending. I've been working on this for over a year and I still
    run into people every day that just don't see the value of the paradigm
    change and don't even realize that there *is* a paradigm change.

    Wishing the problem away hasn't helped. People need education and all
    kinds of levels and unfortunately LKML doesn't reach most of the people
    that actually need the education. :(

    gerrit
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