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    SubjectRe: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel
    On 2005-12-05T07:26:09, Willy Tarreau <> wrote:

    > What I think should be done is to still maintain older 2.6
    > (eg: 2, 3 or 4 previous releases) so that people will have
    > the time to switch to a new one. And I think that what Adrian
    > wants to do would be useful *only* if he proceeds that way.
    > Maybe you should just join forces, eg Chris and you to catch
    > new patches, and Adrian to merge them to older kernels ? Every
    > software maker always supports a few older releases for the
    > people who need to stay on something stable, and it is clearly
    > what is missing now in 2.6.

    Well, this is probably the most useful suggestion so far. The kernel is
    free land; if you or someone else wants to maintain the upcoming 2.6.16
    "forever", and backport fixes or selected features, by all means, do it.
    Define your policy, set up a tree, and off you go.

    If Adrian will maintain it, it'll for sure be the most static kernel

    This won't impact the Linux kernel, which will just continue to run its
    course. The kernel process as a whole doesn't need to change; just
    someone needs to do the grunt work.

    If your kernel is wildly successful and adopted by users as well as
    distributions, you'll be very happy and tell us 'told ya so!'. If not,
    no harm will be done either, and you'll have the kernel you want for
    your own purposes.

    Be aware however that this is a very painful job. Trust me, I've been
    involved with the receiving end of maintaining such a kernel for SLES
    for a couple of releases. ;-)

    Which is exactly the point: it's so painful that for this, people want
    to be paid, and don't like doing it in their spare time. You may
    maintain it for 6 months, sure, which will be less painful than
    maintaining it for 5, 7 years, but when you rebase, you'll still put
    your users into the dependency hell, and they won't have tested the
    intermediate releases... Ouch. Not to mention that not every backported
    fix is trivial to do.

    Anyway, good luck to you.

    The current 2.6.x.y-stable series is quite sane, because they are
    essentially just fixing very critical bugs in very recent kernels, with
    little back porting effort.

    Lars Marowsky-Brée <>

    High Availability & Clustering
    SUSE Labs, Research and Development
    SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - A Novell Business -- Charles Darwin
    "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"

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