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SubjectRe: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario
On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 09:59 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> >On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 09:25 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Salyzyn, Mark wrote:
> >>Uh, a copyrighted standard? They are trying to live up to a secret
> >>standard, one they cannot publish?
> >>Don't sound like a standard to me - a standard is something known,
> >>that is the purpose of standardization.
> >>This sounds like "we standardized the voltage for household lamps, but
> >>we won't tell if it is 110V, 220V or something completely different."
> >>I really hope I misunderstood this.
> >
> >s/copyright/patent/ then you will get it probably more right.
> >Given (beautiful and readable) source code, a patent infringement is
> >probably much easier to proove than with disassembled output of gcc-4.x.
> >
> Oh. So they are infringing already, and just trying to hide it?

ACK - there are so many patents out there (where many them are granted
for software as such, trivial, prior art and/or combinations of them)

> This is so common that it applies to most drivers? :-(

ACK. But this fact is probably not be present in the mind of the average
(none-techie) beancounter, manager or decider.

> >>Standards compliance should never get in the way of open source.
> >>Sure - if the owner modifies the source, then the thing may no longer
> >>comply with the standard. In some cases even illegal or dangerous.
> >
> >Propriatory vendors (the larger they are, the more it makes sense) do
> >that all the time without telling their customers/users (usually
> >somewhere hidden within some tools which produce not compliant garbage)
> >and the strategy is called "customer lockin".
> >
> Closed source may lock customers out, not in. I don't see how an

Yes, also. But I was here refering to software in general, e.g. the
excess of the browser war in creating new HTML entities which were
silently used by the own "WYSIWYG-HTML-Editor" (as if such could exist -
not even in theory).

> open source driver makes it easier for the customer to get away
> from the product. If the proprietary nvidia driver went open source,
> it still wouldn't work with competing cards - the hw is too different.
> Copying the _hardware_ is still a copyright infringement, and possibly
> also a patent issue.

Hardware-related, ACK.

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