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SubjectRe: 3Ware 9500S-12 RAID controller -- poor performance
Dear Ian,

'noapic' was a recommendation by 3Ware / AMCC tech
support. It did not help at all, as expected.
Unfortunately they did not have any other
recommendations.

I've now removed 'noapic' and unfortunately nothing
has changed, really. See current stats below.

# cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 64713875 355 IO-APIC-edge timer
2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
8: 3 1 IO-APIC-edge rtc
14: 7 6 IO-APIC-edge ide0
16: 176847225 191855106 IO-APIC-level eth0
18: 499139 336893 IO-APIC-level libata
48: 31491551 22761438 IO-APIC-level 3w-9xxx
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 64049632 64155206
ERR: 0
MIS: 0

# uptime
08:39:14 up 2 days, 23:54, 8 users, load average:
0.16, 0.13, 0.07

I have also tried playing with the parameters our
friend Ville has mentioned in his post, nothing has
come out of it.

I'm willing to give any developer here access to my
production machine so that they can see the situation
first hand. Performance is just aweful.

I'm planning to ditch RAID5 on this card and try JBOD
and in spreading files evenly across my 12 disks,
hopefully this would give some benifit.

Something is very wrong with this card / driver /
firmware and or kernel combination, hopefully someone
can help out.

Much appreciated

--- Ian Morgan <imorgan@webcon.ca> wrote:

> Why are you booting with 'noapic'.. in my experience
> that will seriously
> impact interrupt performance. Use the APIC if you've
> got it, which in this
> case you definitely do.
>
> Yes, having your gigabit NIC and RAID controller on
> the same IRQ (in PIC
> mode) could definitely me a source of trouble.
>
> In your web server testing, were you using an
> external traffic generator or
> an on-host process? If you try on-host (eliminating
> the network throughput
> and related interrupts) does performance improve?
>
> So two biggest suggestions:
>
> - Use the APIC. It is your friend.
>
> - It looks like the 3ware card and gigabit nic are
> on different busses, but
> the pirq lines are being routed to the same legacy
> interrupt in PIC mode. So
> APIC mode should avoid that problem. If the
> controller and nic are actually
> on the same bus, separate them.
>
>
> Regards,
> Ian Morgan
>
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>
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>
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, subbie subbie wrote:
>
> > Dear list,
> >
> > After almost two weeks of experimentation, google
> > searches and reading of posts, bug reports and
> > discussions I'm still far from an answer. I'm
> hoping
> > someone on this list could shed some light on the
> > subject.
> >
> > I'm using a 3Ware 9500S-12 card and am able to
> produce
> > up to 400MB/s sustained read from my 12-disk 4.1TB
> > RAID5 SATA array, 128MB cache onboard, ext3
> formatted.
> > All is well when performing a single read -- it
> > works nice and fast.
> >
> > The system is a web server, serving mid-size files
> > (50MB, each, on average). All hell breaks loose
> when
> > doing many concurrent reads, anywhere between 200
> to
> > 400 concurrent streams things simply grind to a
> halt
> > and the system transfers a maximum of 12-14MB/s.
> >
> > I'm in the process of clearing up the array (this
> > would take some time) and restructuring it to JBOD
> > mode in order to use each disk individually. I
> will
> > use a filesystem more suitable to streaming large
> > files, such as XFS. But this would take time and
> I
> > would very much appreciate the advice of people in
> the
> > know if this is going to help at all. It's hard
> for
> > me to make extreme experimentation (deleting,
> > formatting, reformatting) as this is a productio n
> > system with many files that I have no other place
> to
> > dump until they can be safely removed. Though I'm
> > working on dumping them slowly to other, remote,
> > machines.
> >
> > I'm running the latest kernel, 2.6.13.2 and the
> latest
> > 3Ware driver, taken from the 3ware.com web site
> which
> > upon insmod, updates the card's firmware to the
> latest
> > version as well.
> >
> > In my experiments, I've tried using larger
> readahead,
> > currently at 16k (this helps, higher values do not
> > seem to help much), using the deadline scheduler
> for
> > this device, booting the system with the 'noapic'
> > option and playing with a bunch of VM tunable
> > parameters which I'm not sure that I should really
> be
> > touching. At the moment only the readahead
> > modification is used as the other stuff simply
> didn't
> > help at all.
> >
> > With the stock kernel shipped with my
> distribution,
> > 2.6.8 and its old 3ware driver things were just as
> > worse but manifested themselves differently.
> The
> > system was visibly (top, vmstat...) spending most
> of
> > its time in io-wait and load average was extremely
> > high, in the area of 10 to 20. With the recent
> > kernel and driver mentioned above, the excessive
> > io-wait and load seems to have been resolved and
> > observed loadavg is between 1 and 4.
> >
> > I don't have much experience with systems that are
> > supposed to stream many files concurrently off a
> > hardware RAID of this configuration, but my gut
> > feeling is that something is very wrong and I
> should
> > be seeing a much higher read throughput.
> >
> > Trying to preempt people's questions I've tried to
> > include as much information as possible, a lot of
> > stuff is pasted below.
> >
> > I've just seen that the 3ware driver shares the
> same
> > IRQ with my ethernet card, which has got me a
> little
> > worried, should I be?
> >
> > System uptime, exactly 1 day:
> >
> > # cat /proc/interrupts
> > CPU0 CPU1
> > 0: 21619638 0 XT-PIC timer
> > 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
> > 8: 4 0 XT-PIC rtc
> > 10: 268753224 0 XT-PIC
> 3w-9xxx,
> > eth0
> > 14: 11 0 XT-PIC ide0
> > 15: 337881 0 XT-PIC libata
> > NMI: 0 0
> > LOC: 21110402 21557685
> > ERR: 0
> > MIS: 0
> >
> > # free
> > total used free shared
> > buffers cached
> > Mem: 2075260 2024724 50536
> 0
> > 5184 1388408
> > -/+ buffers/cache: 631132 1444128
> > Swap: 3903784 0 3903784
> >
> > # vmstat -n 1 (output of the last few seconds):
> > procs -----------memory---------- ---swap--
> > -----io---- --system-- ----cpu----
> > 0 0 0 49932 4760 1392980 0 0 15636
> > 32 3169 3697 4 6 30 60
> > 0 0 0 50816 4752 1392376 0 0 5844
> > 0 3114 3929 3 5 91 1
> > 0 0 0 50924 4772 1391404 0 0 9360
> > 0 3187 4348 6 6 76 13
> > 0 2 0 50552 4780 1391532 0 0 24976
> > 44 4077 3906 3 7 65 25
> > 0 1 0 50444 4780 1392688 0 0 20192
> > 0 5048 3914 7 8 56 30
> > 0 1 0 50568 4756 1392508 0 0 21248
> > 0 4060 3603 4 6 48 41
> > 0 0 0 50704 4724 1392268 0 0 30004
> > 0 3834 3369 4 9 65 22
> > 0 3 0 50556 4728 1392468 0 0 3248
> > 1832 2974 4514 2 5 58 35
> > 0 3 0 50308 4724 1392200 0 0 1288
> > 336 1766 1886 1 3 50 47
> > 0 4 0 50308 4732 1391852 0 0 2300
> > 408 1919 2158 0 3 51 46
> > 0 4 0 50556 4736 1390692 0 0 1856
> > 532 1488 1846 3 1 50 46
> > 0 3 0 50680 4740 1390620 0 0 4016
> > 1296 1577 1682 2 2 50 47
> > 0 3 0 50432 4752 1391628 0 0 2180
> > 72 1730 1945 2 2 51 46
> > 2 2 0 49924 4772 1391540 0 0 44372
> > 564 3403 2847 4 5 50 42
> > 0 0 0 50684 4784 1391528 0 0 28640
> > 216 3804 3847 7 8 69 16
>
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