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DateFri, 10 Sep 2004 10:48:13 -0700
FromHans Reiser <>
SubjectRe: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea ofwhat reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why
Alan Cox wrote:

>On Gwe, 2004-09-10 at 06:04, Hans Reiser wrote:
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>
>>>Just one of many applications. Watch Joe-user save their word
>>>processing file sometime, they'll use spaces, quotes, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>With great unhappiness they will.
>>
>>
>
>Its only problematic for the command line users. The GUI doesn't have
>some mysterious notion of meta-characters, it provides out of band
>information on boundaries.
>
>
Forgive me, what is out of band information on boundaries?

Most people I know don't use the GUI for executing commands, perhaps
this is because the existing guis are not good enough yet.

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>>This is why I just want to be left alone to tinker with reiser4. It is
>>faster than other filesystems. People should assume I know what I am
>>doing, and leave me to tinker in my little fs. 5 years later others will
>>follow, or not, I don't care.
>>
>>
>
>See I don't care if you tinker with reiser4. I don't care if it turns
>out to be a crap fs or a great fs. If its a great fs and scales and
>unlike reiser3 can recover well from disk errors then one year I might
>even use it.
>
>
Is there a technical basis for your claim that we have trouble with disk
errors?

Do you mean badblocks support or what?

>I do care if you ask me to suffer core API changes for your research,
>that in your economics world is an externality. Its a large negative
>externality on the part of the userbase so the userbase objects. It
>doesn't take a PhD in economics to understand this.
>
>Alan
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I think it would be reasonable for people to say that our approach
currently has bugs, we should turn metafiles off until we make the bugs
go away.


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