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    SubjectRe: Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc
    Perhaps it's time we just fork the driver and reverse engineer the PWCX 
    archive and end this madness. If Philips doesn't want to release their code
    that's fine but there's nothing stopping us from doing it ourselves.

    P.S, Philips if you do read this mailing list. You certainly didnt make many
    friends. if Adaptec can do it, you can too.

    Any takers? ;-)


    Subject: Re: Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc)
    From: Craig Milo Rogers <rogers () isi ! edu>
    Date: 2004-08-27 18:55:41
    Message-ID: <20040827185541.GC24018 () isi ! edu>
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    On 04.08.27, Linus Torvalds wrote:
    > But Greg is right - we don't keep hooks that are there purely for binary
    > drivers. If somebody wants a binary driver, it had better be a whole
    > independent thing - and it won't be distributed with the kernel.

    If you read Nemosoft's final driver release (which has been
    reposted, and of which I now have a copy), you can see that he was
    rewriting his code to move the proprietary codecs out of the kernel
    entirely, and into user-mode libraries to be linked with consenting
    applications -- he was quite sensitive to the kernel issues involved.
    Of course, this is still nowhere as good as a wholly open source
    solution, a position with which I think Nemosoft concurs, based on his

    Linus, would you adress a moot issue, please? If Nemosoft (or
    someone else) were to release some of the codecs in question as one or
    more open-source loadable kernel modules (similar to sound card
    support modules in the ALSA system), while other codecs remain
    binary-only loadable kernel modules (distributed outside the kernel,
    but using the same hook as the open-source loadable modules), would
    the pwc driver and codec extension hook be allowable, in your opinion,

    Craig Milo Rogers
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