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Tomasz Kłoczko <kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> writes: Hello Tomasz, > Probably you did try use DTrace even less than 5 minutes :-> No, I didn't. I clearly referred to that article, not to dtrace itself. > PS. Very interesting commens about this thread is on Bryan Cantrill > (DTrace developer) blog: > http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/bmc/20040820#dtrace_on_lkml > Bryan blog is also yet another Dtrace knowledge source .. Oh, yeah, great. A whole blog entry dedicated to me. Now I am a moron, absolutely clueless and I am "looking to confirm preconceived notions rather than understand new technology". Sorry, but that goes a little too far. No, I didn't try out dtrace and, right after reading the article (and that's the important thing!) I didn't seek for further information about it, I'm not a Solaris System Administrator right now (I was, some years ago). And all I was saying is that this *article* was just ridiculous. Please read this paragraph of my response to it again: | Maybe, without that article, I would recognize it as a fine thing | (and by "fine" I don't mean "the best thing since sliced bread"), | but that piece of text was just too ridiculous to take anything | serious. That should make it obvious, shouldn't it? I would have written the same thing If I read a similar article about, for example, vmware, UML or valgrind - and I really think those are really great inventions. But in that article, I was just missing the objectiveness. A quick note about the fact that Sun's been introducing dtrace for Solaris 10 and what it is, what it does, would have been much better instead of talking about a "Cantrill explosion", how "DTrace has completely changed the way I do business" (actual quotes). Florian and Alan told me in a quick and objective manner why dtrace is a good thing, and I am glad for that information. I never stated that DTrace was a bad thing. I repeat it again - if I had any use for it, and I maybe have in future - it looks like I would consider DTrace a very nice thing to have. From the (non-insulting) replys I got, I understood that DTrace actually is one. Bryan Cantrill, I can understand that you have to defend DTrace. But please, PLEASE stop saying that I am a clueless moron if I wasn't even ranting about you, ranting about DTrace, but just about *that single article* and it's presentation of DTrace to me. And then all those comments about Linux users and developers being very defensive about DTrace... heck, can't I even critisize the quality of an ARTICLE without being accused of being a Linux maniac which fights against Solaris? I am using Solaris myself. Some years ago, I was a System Administrator for - guess what - Solaris machines. The last thing I want to step into is a religious war between Solaris and Linux. Does that mean I am not allowed to express my opinion about the public press anymore? I read about dtrace now, I think it's a good invention. If at any place at any time we two would meet I maybe would say to you "Bryan, I like DTrace very much". If I was to administer Solaris systems right now, I would probably even say: "Bryan, DTrace has helped me a lot". But I would STILL say that that article was CRAP, because that is just what that article is from my point of view. Now, I really don't know how to make this any more clear. Julien - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ | ||||||||||||
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