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SubjectRe: [PATCH 2/2] hotplug resource limitation
Greg KH wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 03:07:15PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>this is the second patch to implement hotplug resource limitation
>>(relative to 2.6.7-rc2-mm2).
>>
>>In some cases it is preferrable to adapt the number of concurrent
>>hotplug processes on the fly in addition to set the number statically
>>during boot.
>
>
> Why? This should be "auto-tuning". We don't want to provide
> yet-another-knob-for-people-to-tweak-from-userspace, right?
>
In principle you're right. But as we don't really now how much resources
the installed hotplug program will require I don't really see another way.

>
>>Additionally, it might be required to disable hotplug /
>>kmod event delivery altogether for debugging purposes (e.g. if a module
>>loaded automatically is crashing the machine).
>
>
> Ugh, that's just not a good thing at all. You can do that by running:
> echo /bin/true > /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug
> today if you have to. I don't like the ability to stop the kernel from
> running properly, like this patch allows you to.
>
But then you'll lose all events which happen in the meantime.

The dynamic setting is mainly intended for two scenarios:
- Booting. You can disable all events on boot with the kernel
commandline and re-enable them once your hotplug subsystem is up and
running. This way you can handle all (ok, all devices appearing in
sysfs) device with hotplug events; there is no need to regenerate / fake
all events which might have been missed. Currently you need two sets of
scripts, one for configuring all devices until hotplug is running and
another one used by hotplug.
- Debugging. Especially laptops or legacy free machines do have the
problem that hotplug scripts might misconfigure the machine, e.g. by
loading the wrong module. Of course it's possible to keep this 'disable
hotplug events on request' (which should event available during boot)
entirely in userspace. But it would increase the size of /sbin/hotplug
(and hence the running time) by quite a bit; and this would bite us on
every hotplug event generated resulting in a general slowdown of the
hotplug subsystem. If we can stop the hotplug event delivery from within
the kernel, we can keep the main hotplug script as small as possible
while retaining the functionality of temporarily disabling all hotplug
events.

What we could do, though, is to implement two semaphores, one for kmod
calls and another one for hotplug calls. Then we can queue or event
delay all hotplug events while any kmod call would just be blocked until
the semaphore is free again.

Better approach?

Cheers,

Hannes
--
Dr. Hannes Reinecke hare@suse.de
SuSE Linux AG S390 & zSeries
Maxfeldstraße 5 +49 911 74053 688
90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de
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