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    SubjectRe: 2.6.4 on Alpha uninterruptible sleep of processes
    Hi Ivan,

    On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 02:01:41 +0300
    Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru> wrote:

    > On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:52:15PM +0100, Marc Giger wrote:
    > > Right now I'm recompiling the kernel. So you say this patch isn't a
    > > fix but a test?
    >
    > Yes. That patch just reverts new alpha semaphore stuff which went
    > into 2.6.4.
    >
    > > This time I have additionally "semaphore debugging" enabled,
    > > perhaps it's useful for you.
    >
    > Thanks, this might be helpful.

    Hmm, I couldn't boot the kernel with enabled "semaphore debugging". It
    hangs directly after aboot. No messages, nothing. Do I something wrong?
    Now I've booted 2.6.4 without debugging.

    >
    > > > The answer is here:
    > > > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397
    > >
    > > That's no answer, that's a statement:-) Do know the exactly reason
    > > why it should be a bad idea? Is it mostly a bad idea on alpha?
    >
    > Hmm, I haven't discussed that with Richard, so I can't speak for him
    > :-) IMHO, the benefits of the kernel preempt support in general are
    > more than doubtful, the level of complexity that it adds to the kernel
    > code is just unacceptable.

    Ok, but I read somewhere exactly the opposite (lkml?).
    The statement was something like the following: "Preempt doesn't need
    much more infrastrucure in kernel code, because the needed locking
    mechanism is already there (SMP)."

    So I'm confused now:-) But I understand that every little more
    complexity is not for free. More task switches etc...

    Thank you for the infos.

    greets

    Marc
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