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    SubjectRe: JFS default behavior (was: UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc.) wrote:
    > On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 02:16:53AM +0100, Robin Rosenberg wrote:
    > > Yes, so ext3&co. should be equipped with charset options just the other so
    > > it can be fixed by the user or in some cases the mount tools.
    > >
    > > Is there a place to store character set information in these file systems?
    > Bullshit. Just as there is no timezone common for all users, there is no
    > charset common for all of them. Charset of _machine_ doesn't make any sense
    > at all - toy operating systems nonwithstanding.

    Charset of a filename does make sense, though. That's not per user,
    it's per filename.

    A name which one user entered as "£10.txt" should ideally display as
    that sequence of characters to all users who want to display the name.

    I already have this problem on my filesystems: some programs show the
    names assuming UTF-8, other programs show them assuming

    But it's worse than that. On my filesystem, names are stored in UTF-8
    as is recommended these days. "ls" on some terminals shows the names
    as I wrote them. But on other terminals it shows the wrong names.

    If I create a file using a shell command, what I get depends on which
    terminal I used to create it. If I am using a terminal which displays
    UTF-8 but ssh to another machine, the other machine assumes the
    terminal is displaying iso-8859-1 even though the other machine's
    default locale is UTF-8. And so on.

    -- Jamie

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