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    SubjectRe: [RFC] Splitting kernel headers and deprecating __KERNEL__
    On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 03:00:17PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
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    >
    > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
    > >
    > > I don't see it as obvious at all. The need for an agreement between
    > > two parties on an ABI doesn't imply that one party gets to define it
    > > and the other gets to follow it.
    >
    > Sorry, but that's not how it works.
    >
    > He who writes the code decides what it is. In this case, if the kernel
    > does a new extension, it's the kernel that gets to decide what it is.
    > Full stop.
    >
    > If glibc wants to do something new, go wild. The kernel won't care.
    >
    > And that's really the fundamental issue. The kernel does not care what
    > user land does. The kernel exports functionality, the kernel does _not_
    > ask user land to help.

    except for the user land kernel helpers ;)
    via call_usermodehelper()

    > That _does_ make it a one-way street. Sorry.
    >
    > Linus

    sorry too,
    Herbert

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