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On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 11:01:04PM +0100, Andries Brouwer wrote: > On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 01:05:20PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > Oh, _I_ always understood. You were the one that was arguing for > > stable numbers as somehow important. > > Indeed. I said "preferably stable across reboots". > > > I'm just telling you that they aren't stable, and that a > > user application that depends on their stability or > > their uniqueness is BROKEN. > > Surprise! Are you leaving POSIX? Or ditching NFS? > Or demanding that NFS servers must never reboot? > > A common Unix idiom is testing for the identity > of two files by comparing st_ino and st_dev. > A broken idiom? > > No idea what part of our Unix heritage you now have decided to call broken. > You worry about /dev over nfs, with the server booting in the middle of such a comparison? This can work even with randomized device numbers, just don't let that nfs server populate the exported /dev itself. Let the client(s) run udev, and have one /dev for each on persistent storage. If the nfs server reboots it simply keeps serving /dev's in whatever shape the clients set them up with. Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ | ||||||||||||
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