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SubjectRe: udev - please help me to understand

On 01.02, Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 09:48:36PM +1000, Steve Youngs wrote:
> > Hi Greg!
> >
> > I've been looking at this "udev" thingy and I can't for the life of me
> > see why I'd need it. There doesn't appear to be _any_ advantages of
> > using udev in my present situation.
>
> Ok, great. Then don't use it, I'm not forcing you to for 2.6 :)
>
> > No, I don't use devfs.
> >
> > I have zero hot-pluggable devices (that might change somewhere in the
> > distant future, but for now I don't have any). And never in my wildest
> > dreams could I ever imagine running out of device numbers.
> >
> > Reading through the documentation that I've found about udev, your
> > main points seem to be about:
> >
> > - udev vs devfs
> > - running out of device major/minor numbers
> > - not having to worry about major/minor numbers
> >
> > For me, the first point is moot because I don't use devfs. The second
> > point is just plain ridiculous, there is just _no_ way that it could
> > happen (remember that I'm talking about my own situation).
>
> If you never have any hotpluggable devices, nor any need to move disks
> around in your system, then you don't need udev.
>

Don't think so. My first use for udev is a cluster (when bproc works on
2.6 ;)). Or in general diskless booting.

You build your initrd for remote boot. You have two options:
- copy a full /dev from a working host (tons of files that make the rd big
just to fit all the inodes).
- spend a lot of time guessing what is and what is not needed on each node
(you can have ata drives, scsi ones, different network cards, different
graphics cards...)

I just want to boot with and empty /dev and let udev populate it, even with
same device names for different hadrware. And nodes will never hotplug anything.

IE, I want a working and race free devfs, and this is udev.

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