Messages in this thread | | | From | Balram Adlakha <> | Subject | Re: Flame Linus to a crisp! | Date | Fri, 25 Apr 2003 01:09:14 +0530 |
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On Friday 25 Apr 2003 1:02 am, Timothy Miller wrote: > Daniel Phillips wrote: > >On Thu 24 Apr 03 16:45, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >>If open hardware is what you want, FPGA's are actually getting to the > >>point where you can do real CPU's with them. They won't be gigahertz, and > >>they won't have big nice caches (but hey, you might make something that > >>clocks fairly close to memory speeds, so you might not care about the > >>latter once you have the former). > >> > >>They're even getting reasonably cheap. > > > >The big problem with FPGAs at the moment is that the vendors want you to > > use their tools, which come with license agreements that limit your > > options in arbitrary ways, otherwise this would be peachy. > > For their smaller devices, Xilinx has a free "WebPack" which is a > complete Verilog synthesizer (I don't know if it does VHDL), as well as > place & route, of course. I think it'll do up to Virtex II 250. It > also tends use fewer gates for a given design than the version of > Leonardo Spectrum we have. It just doesn't have a simulator, which is > vital to any good development process. Also, the Web Pack only runs > under Windows. Maybe it'll work with WINE? > > I've been working on my own 32-bit CPU design for FPGA lately. Maybe we > can get Linux to run on it. :)
By the way, I'm just curious, I don't have much knowledge of this, can anyone create a processor with the x86 instruction set and sell it? Like did AMD and transmeta and all get a license from Intel?
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