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    SubjectRE: Who changed /proc/<pid>/ in 2.6.0-test5-bk9?
    I can say that (virtually) any programmer who does a lot of threads work is
    going to presume that he may pass file handles between threads safely.

    IMHO it would be exceptionally bad to break this assumption.

    At the purist level, when I pass an abstraction (data structure etc) around
    between my threads, having done my due-diligence WRT locking and such, I
    expect that when the abstraction gets there it will still be valid.


    class ObjectList { /* whatever */ };

    class CachedObjectList: public ObjectList {
    iostream SlowStorage;
    /* whatever */

    /* global, locks not shown */ vector<ObjectList*> central_registry;

    One would *expect* that one could add CachedObjectList objects to the
    central registry and then use them in any thread as long as access/locking
    paradigms were strictly followed.

    If every thread *doesn't* have the exact same set of files open in exactly
    the same handles, this would not be true.

    I would go as far as saying that if CLONE_THREAD *MUST* imply CLONE_FILES
    automatically or Very Bad Things(tm) could happen.

    For instance, if two threads have opened different files as fd==10, when the
    shared data structure above passed from one thread to the other (with
    SlowStorage attached to fd 10), the buffered output from the first task
    could get flushed into the file opened by the second thread at whatever its
    write pointer happens to be set to. Etc.


    -----Original Message-----
    [] On Behalf Of Albert Cahalan
    Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:03 PM
    To: Ulrich Drepper
    Cc: Albert Cahalan; Linus Torvalds; Mikael Pettersson; Kernel Mailing List
    Subject: Re: Who changed /proc/<pid>/ in 2.6.0-test5-bk9?

    No. I mean "ban" like we ban CLONE_THREAD w/o CLONE_DETACHED.
    Remember, the last stable release of the kernel (2.4.xx)
    didn't have the ability to do CLONE_THREAD at all. So it
    isn't as if real-world apps are depending on the ability
    to do CLONE_THREAD w/o sharing file descriptors.

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