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    SubjectRe: 2.7 thoughts: common well-architected object model

    nobody says that it belongs into the kernel rather
    designed by core=kernel folks core-up, that is e.g.
    not being a derivative of a set of all-encompassing
    classes developed for an application.

    I think the issue is serious and brushing it aside as
    being non-kernel at first will come back biting.
    What's going on could be described as being cornered.

    --- wrote:
    > On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:04:19 PDT, retu said:
    > > What's the solution out of this - a clean, open
    > object
    > > model designed by the core folks, extensible and
    > free
    > > of licensing issues - and that in the next months.
    > The point that seems to be continually missed is
    > that although
    > it may be a *fine* concept for userspace, it doesn't
    > belong in the
    > kernel. There's a syscall barrier for multiple
    > reasons, some technical
    > and some political/legal.
    > If anything, we collectively DON'T want to go there
    > because a clever lawyer
    > could argue that doing a "all the way from kernel to
    > userspace" object-oriented
    > scheme would make essentially all userspace code a
    > derived work, since it would
    > be so tightly entwined with the kernel
    > implementation (basically, you'd be
    > subjecting all of userspace to the same "derived
    > work" limbo that closed-source
    > kernel modules currently live in). This could
    > render totally irrelevant this
    > text from /usr/src/linux/COPYING:
    > NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover user
    > programs that use kernel
    > services by normal system calls - this is merely
    > considered normal use
    > of the kernel, and does *not* fall under the
    > heading of "derived work".
    > Also note that the GPL below is copyrighted by the
    > Free Software
    > Foundation, but the instance of code that it refers
    > to (the Linux
    > kernel) is copyrighted by me and others who
    > actually wrote it.
    > Yes, this would mean that userspace would be GPL'ed
    > as well, and
    > you'll never see Oracle on a Linux box again for a
    > VERY long time....

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