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This message generated a parse failure. Raw output follows here. Please use 'back' to navigate. From devnull@lkml.org Sat Oct 11 03:38:07 2008 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.116.70.75]) by kylie.puddingonline.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h069YUo31057 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 10:34:30 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 04:23:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 04:23:24 -0500 Received: from mail.hometree.net ([212.34.181.120]:64162 "EHLO mail.hometree.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 04:23:23 -0500 Received: from henning-pc.hutweide.de (gate.hutweide.de [212.34.181.50]) by mail.hometree.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h069VppL019563; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 10:31:52 +0100 Subject: Re: Honest does not pay here ... From: Henning Schmiedehausen To: David van Hoose Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <3E18CC4D.1020604@cox.net> References: <200301041809.KAA06893@adam.yggdrasil.com> <3E18B76B.8050803@cox.net> <3E18CC4D.1020604@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: INTERMETA - Gesellschaft =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=C3=BCr?= Mehrwertdienste mbH Message-Id: <1041845511.21466.9.camel@henning-pc.hutweide.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 06 Jan 2003 10:31:51 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 01:22, David van Hoose wrote: > Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: > > David van Hoose writes: > > > > > >>Binary-only drivers are great as long as they work. Every such driver I > >>have used so far has worked perfectly. > >>I have only one problem with NVidia's driver: It refuses to compile > >>under 2.5.54 which requires me use X's nv driver or use 2.4.21 for KDE. > >>Anyone know how to get around that? :-) > > > > > > You get what you paid for. Go to the nVidia support forum and complain > > loudly. That's what it is there for. I'd probably say that they tell > > you to stick to the "released versions of Linux". If you consider this > > support policy sucky, well there is the ATI Radeon chip... > > Very true. And if they don't want to support the beta kernel, that's > there choice. I'd rather them throw a driver in for people that use the > beta kernel for possibly testing new chipsets, know whether or not they > need to do revisions before their own driver can be released, and so > when the beta kernel is finally released that they'll have a driver > right then to provide. As I use the nvdriver on 2.4, I didn't have the pressure yet to chase a driver for 2.5. But I'd guess that nvidia has some sort of non-public beta program where they do testing of their stuff on latest kernels. I'd simply ask whether there is such a program and how to join. After all, they surely _want_ their driver to be used. Because it sells boards. :-) > The impression I am getting from the GPL argument is that people want > 100% opensource drivers. Well, to be frank, I'd rather have a driver > that isn't 100% opensource to no driver at all. I think most everyone on Couldn't agree more. Regards Henning -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Geschaeftsfuehrer INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH hps@intermeta.de Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 info@intermeta.de D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/