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    SubjectRe: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks
    Consider this argument:

    Given: On ext3, fsync() of any file on a partition commits all
    outstanding transactions on that partition to the log.

    Given: data=ordered forces pending data writes for a file to happen
    before related transactions are committed to the log.

    Therefore: With data=ordered, fsync() of any file on a partition
    syncs the outstanding writes of EVERY file on that

    Is this argument correct? If so, it suggests that data=ordered is
    actually the *worst* possible journalling mode for a mail spool.

    One other thing. I think this statement is misleading:

    IF your server is stable and not prone to crashing, and/or you
    have the write cache on your hard drives battery backed, you
    should strongly consider using the writeback journaling mode of
    Ext3 versus ordered.

    This makes it sound like data=writeback is somehow unsafe when
    machines crash. I do not think this is true. If your application
    (e.g., Postfix) is written correctly (which it is), so it calls
    fsync() when it is supposed to, then data=writeback is *exactly* as
    safe as any other journalling mode. "Battery backed caches" and the
    like have nothing to do with it. And if your application is written
    incorrectly, then other journalling modes will reduce but not
    eliminate the chances for things to break catastrophically on a crash.

    So if the partition is dedicated to correct applications, like a mail
    spool is, then data=writeback is perfectly safe. If it is faster,
    too, then it really is a no-brainer.

    - Pat
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