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    SubjectRe: What's left over.
    On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Steven King wrote:

    > On Friday 01 November 2002 11:18 am, Linus Torvalds wrote:
    >
    > > To add insult to injury, you will not be able to actually _test_ any of
    > > the real error paths in real life. Sure, you will be able to test forced
    > > dumps on _your_ hardware, but while that is fine in the AIX model ("we
    > > control the hardware, and charge the user five times what it is worth"),
    > > again that doesn't mean _squat_ in the PC hardware space.
    >
    > On the other hand, ISC's system 5 r3 ran on commodity x86 hardware and the
    > crash dumper worked on the various disk hardware I had occasion to use it on
    > (mfm, scsi, ide), although one did need to make sure swap was larger than ram
    > or bad things would happen. 8-{.

    The thing is that Solaris, AIX, and ISC are written by commercial
    companies, they realize that customers need to be able to debug systems
    which don't have a screen, a serial printer, etc. They do have disk.

    I was hoping Alan would push Redhat to put this in their Linux so we
    could resolve some of the ongoing problems which don't write an oops to a
    log, but I guess none of the developers has to actually support production
    servers and find out why they crash.

    --
    bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
    CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
    Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.

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