Messages in this thread | | | Date | Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:59:34 -0500 | From | Dave Anderson <> | Subject | Re: What's left over. |
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On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> - included features kill off (potentially better) projects. > > There's a big "inertia" to features. It's often better to keep > features _off_ the standard kernel if they may end up being > further developed in totally new directions. > > In particular when it comes to this project, I'm told about > "netdump", which doesn't try to dump to a disk, but over the net. > And quite frankly, my immediate reaction is to say "Hell, I > _never_ want the dump touching my disk, but over the network > sounds like a great idea". > > To me this says "LKCD is stupid". Which means that I'm not going to apply > it, and I'm going to need some real reason to do so - ie being proven > wrong in the field. > > (And don't get me wrong - I don't mind getting proven wrong. I change my > opinions the way some people change underwear. And I think that's ok).
It would be most unfortunate if the existance of netdump is used as a reason to deny LKCD's inclusion, or to simply dismiss LKCD as stupid.
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Matt D. Robinson wrote:
> We want to see this in the kernel, frankly, because it's a pain > in the butt keeping up with your kernel revisions and everything > else that goes in that changes. And I'm sure SuSE, UnitedLinux and > (hopefully) Red Hat don't want to spend their time having to roll > this stuff in each and every time you roll a new kernel.
While Red Hat advocates Ingo's netdump option, we have customer requests that are requiring us to look at LKCD disk-based dumps as an alternative, co-existing dump mechanism. Since the two methods are not mutually exclusive, LKCD will never kill off netdump -- nor certainly vice-versa. We're all just looking for a better means to be able to provide support to our customers, not to mention its value as a development aid.
Dave Anderson Red Hat, Inc.
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