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SubjectRe: Makefile gcc -o /dev/null: the dissapearing of /dev/null
On Sat, 2001-09-29 06:10:52 -0700, Jim Treadway <jim@stardot-tech.com>
wrote in message <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109290535390.25966-100000@cerberus.stardot-tech.com>:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
> > On Sat, 2001-09-29 09:55:35 +0200, proton <proton@energymech.net>
> > wrote in message <3BB57E77.4CDFF5D0@energymech.net>:
> >
> > > Ofcourse, you cant unlink /dev/null unless you are root.
> >
> > That's right and fine so far.
> >
> > > In any case, the `gcc -o /dev/null' test cases probably
> > > need to go away.
> >
> > No. Why? Well, the Linux kernel compiles just fine while
> > being an ordianary user. You don't have to be root to
> > compile it. As it's just bad to do usual *work* as root,
> > you're the bug.
>
> So then you can no longer 'make modules && make modules_install', or you
> have to cp or chown /usr/src/linux on a fresh install to compile your
> kernel? Doesn't sound pleasant to me.

You may do it this way:

make dep clean bzImage modules && su -c "make modules_install"

This is so far the minimal version for building as non-root user.

> I think the "trick" is to redirect stdout and stderr to /dev/null as well,
> so that /dev/null doesn't get removed from the file system since it is
> held open by the shell.
>
> Something like:
>
> gcc -o /dev/null -xc /dev/null /dev/null 2>&1

No-go. It's perfectly okay to remove an opened file. Test it yourself.
You may even replace a running (!) executable...

> Perhaps someone just forgot the I/O redirection in one of the tests?

No. It would be of no effect:-)

> However, I just compiled (but did not install) 2.4.10, as root, and my
> /dev/null still exists...

Fine:-) That's the way to go!

MfG, JBG

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Jan-Benedict Glaw . jbglaw@lug-owl.de . +49-172-7608481
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