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    SubjectRe: [Xpert]Video drivers and the kernel
    Please CC me if sending to xpert list.

    This is a big topic. I think I can contribute a whole two cents worth
    Interesting to note that NT's windowing system moved from being originally
    in userland to inside the kernel between V3.? and 4.0. Remember mom saying
    "If your friends all jump off a bridge..."

    The issue I understand is that context switching kernel<>user slows things
    And then there's trying to make an api... XFree just maps mmio/framebuffer
    and ioports
    into it's own address space and bangs the hardware, so it's fast and can do
    DRI extends this to client 3D code in a sense.

    Bottom line for me, I don't care; as long as I still can use remote X apps,
    and Quake3 uses
    my 3D hardware, I'm happy to have people spend their time improving X how
    they see fit,
    and they're done an incredible job so far.

    My only complaint is when there's a problem with X: It's cool that I can
    just restart it
    rather than reboot like windows. (so you can play from console of a server
    right? :)
    This is a benefit of it being in userspace. But it would be nice
    if I didn't have to do it via telnet; sometimes I don't have a box on a
    (Aside, is this because X uses keyboard in raw mode? would be nice to still
    be able to ctrl-alt-del to rebood from console) Anyone know about
    using alt-sysrq to restore console?

    So, if the kernel had a card specific module that just knew enough
    to put the card back into text mode, or if it used the card's bios
    to do it like the int10.a module in XFree 4.0, we would lack for nothing.
    (hmm vesafb could be extended?)

    > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Louis Garcia wrote:
    > > I was wondering why video drivers are not part of the kernel like every
    > > other piece of hardware. I would think if video drivers were part of the
    > > kernel and had a nice API for X or any other windowing system, would not
    > > only improve performance but would allow competing windowing systems
    > > without having to develop drivers for each. Has anyone thought or
    > > rejected this idea.

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