Messages in this thread |  | | | Subject | Re: [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5 | | From | Edward Muller <> | | Date | 04 Dec 2001 14:50:52 -0500 |
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I'm just sick of people saying that python is bloated.
I've put python on my Compaq IPAQ (running linux) and with very few amounts of tweaks it took up less 1 MB. And that's including gtk bindings (no tk though) and just about the entire standard python library. Someone else tried to do this with perl and they couldn't get it under 3 MB IIRC. And IIRC, the current kernel build system requires perl (I could be wrong, I'm just a watcher on this list, not a hacker). So ... PYTHON IS NOT BLOATED.
Python maybe slow (when compared to C/C++ code). But that is the nature of an interpreted language. Python's speed is on par with Perl's and most other interpreted languages.
Anyway ... I'm done venting.
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 13:30, RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado wrote: > Hi Eric :)) > > >(2) Requiring Python introduces another tool into the requisites list for > >kernel building. > > I'm happy to see that out of your 'silly' list... > > >I'm just going to say "Today's problems, today's tools." > > Hey, hope that Python never gets considered a 'today's tool' or > we will end up needing 256 CPU mainframes just to issue an 'ls' > (maybe this will not be enough if filesystem drivers are written in > Python too. In the future, I mean...). > > And yes, Python is a today's problem. Fortunately, people keeps > rewriting their Python code in true languages. > > >Progress happens. > > Python is not progress, is just bloatware. I don't think that the > kernel *building* should be made dependant on such a fatware. And, > how about the 'Python License'. I'm pretty sure that it is compatible > with the rest of the kernel, but we should pray for it not to change. > > And, well, Python is fatware just for me: anyway will see > reasonable to install a 6Mb sources language just for the > configuration of the kernel. Very reasonable. > > >If you don't like it, feel free to go back to writing Autocoder on your 1401. > > Good policy... People who don't like Python are morons... And > maybe those that neither use Java or C# for the kernel will be too in > a near future, is that what you're trying to say? > > Eric, I think that this is an important issue and that the > decision about adding such a big dependence to the kernel should be > studied with care, and not imposed. > > Raúl > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- ------------------------------- Edward Muller Director of IS 973-715-0230 (cell) 212-487-9064 x115 (NYC)
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