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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:19:15 -0800 (PST) > From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> > To: Timothy Covell <timothy.covell@ashavan.org> > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, > Linux Frame Buffer Device Development > <linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>, > Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br> > Subject: Re: [patch] Re: Framebuffer...Why oh Why??? > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Timothy Covell wrote: > > > > When X11 locks up, I can still kill it and my box lives. When > > framebuffers crash, their is no recovery save rebooting. Back in 1995 > > I thought that linux VTs and X11 implemenation blew Solaris out of the > > water, and now we want throw away our progress? I'm still astounded > > by the whole "oooh I can see a penquin while I boot-up" thing? > > Granted, frame buffers have usage in embedded systems, but do they > > really have to be so deeply integrated?? > > They aren't. > > No sane person should use frame buffers if they have the choice. > > Like your mama told you: "Just say no". Use text-mode and X11, and be > happy. > > Some people don't have the choice, of course. > > Linus Like the no choice if having one's 11 year old syster try to use the thing? Text-mode and X11 seem to work fine if you walk on egg shells but just try switching from console to text mode and back again several times. Eventually it _will_ crash. Or worse yet mix svgalib and X11. My brother and sister both used to crash my system at least 3 times a week before framebuffer + fbdev came into play. Gerhard -- Gerhard Mack gmack@innerfire.net <>< As a computer I find your faith in technology amusing. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ | ||||||||||||
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