Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:52:49 -0700 | From | "David S. Miller" <> | Subject | Re: Availability of kdb |
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Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:46:02 -0700 (PDT) From: <lamont@icopyright.com>
I guarantee you that IT managers and CTOs do not share your enthusiasm for slow, correct coding when faced with their business being down, their revenue stream being interrupted and their stock options losing value.
What part of "I don't care" did you not understand when Linus said it?
What part of "More Code, more people, more money. Why should I think they are good things?" did you not understand when Linus said it?
You miss the entire point. Linus is saying "I don't care" about the standard kernel. From this, you can consider that someone who does care is more than welcome to provide a service that:
1) Adds the debugger, kernel dump, whatever patch to the kernel for a customer.
2) Provides a support contract for that customer, where 24/7 they'll work on fixing trouble that customer has.
None of this has any relevance to whether the standard kernel has this or that debugging facility.
Just becuase it isn't in the standard kernel doesn't mean the whole world is disallowed from using it.
"IT managers" and "enterprise wide client server, java brown stuff enabled" sites are going to want a support contract if they do anything serious with Linux, a fair assumption right? It then goes almost without saying that those entities providing such support services would be wise to, as a part of this service, have the site run kernels with KDB or whatever included. Right? Isn't this the whole beauty of open source, anybody can just add it in?
I think this whole thread is becoming rediculious. Linus will not put KDB and other such debugging aides into the standard tree so live with it already.
Later, David S. Miller davem@redhat.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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