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SubjectRe: Availability of kdb

Allright, You've convinced me. I'll do it. It will require consierable
support moving forward.

:-)

Jeff

Miles Lane wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "Theodore Y. Ts'o" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > If you come up with robust, easy to patch source-code-level debugger for
> > > Linux, some people will use it, and some people won't. If it's better
> > > than kdb, eventually it'll displace kdb as the external kernel debugger
> > > of choice. As with all things, the cardinal rule in this community
> > > still applies: "show me the code".
> > >
> > > - Ted
> >
> > Thanks Ted. I know, but a kernel debugger is one of those nasty pieaces
> > of software that can quickly get out of sync if it's maintained
> > separately from the tree -- the speed at which changes occur in Linux
> > would render it a very difficult project to maintain. If there's going
> > to be one (whichever one it is) it would need to be maintained and
> > dragged along with the kernel proper or it would be a maintenance
> > nightmare. Linus' dislike of the kernel debugger concept would also
>
> I agree with Ted. If your debugger is a highly effective, easy-to-use tool,
> people will use it and help you with improving it. If the distributions
> include it, then developers building software with "stable" kernels will
> use it for checking code that interacts with their kernels in ways that
> cause trouble. This would be very valuable.
>
> This means you get to focus on supporting released kernels. This might be
> a viable way for you to build a user base. This could eventually lead to
> use with the development kernel and the growth of support for keeping
> the debugger in sync with the kernel's architectural changes.
>
> I am a Linux tester, not a kernel developer, so this is
> "for what it's worth."
>
> Miles
>
> > assure that it would not be considered in design decisions moving
> > forward, which is probably the biggest disuader in the whole debate. I
> > don't spend money on things I believe are destined to fail. Until Linus
> > changes his mind, there's no point ...
> >
> > Jeff
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