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    SubjectRe: Definitions

    On a tangent, what *is* the deal with Ext3 these days? I've not seen any
    news about it recently.


    You said...

    > said:
    > > This is hilarious.
    > > The problem Redhat faces that inspires their opposition is that they
    > > know that if reiserfs goes in, the US market will go the way the
    > > European market has, and most of them will never go back even if ext3
    > > is later performance effective. Why RedHat doesn't just help ReiserFS
    > > rather than fight it, well, this is the puzzle to me.
    > To be honest, I'm a little confused by this mail.
    > For a start, Red Hat would appear to have nothing to do with this. Linus
    > makes these decisions.
    > There was a brief period, a few weeks ago, where Alan was maintaining an -ac
    > series in Linus' absence, and he quite sensibly didn't accept any major new
    > stuff - he certainly refused to accept mine. The situation has now reverted
    > to normal. Code submitted to Linus may or may not go in, but nobody who
    > works for Red Hat can get in the way without subverting Transmeta's mail
    > servers.
    > Hans, when was the last time the ReiserFS code was prepared as a patch in
    > the form that Linus prefers, and mailed directly to him? From vague memory,
    > I think the MTD code went in on about the tenth such submission - so please
    > list _all_ dates on which you've done so.
    > Secondly, I really don't understand why Red Hat should give a flying
    > wossname which filesystem their customers use. If anything, they should
    > want to give customers a _wider_ choice, to increase their brand's
    > attractiveness.
    > It was my understanding that the European market has largely opted to buy
    > SuSE because it's shipped from the Free World and is fully functional as a
    > secure system - including SSH and other such programs which weren't
    > permitted to be exported from the US.
    > Now I can see how _that_ could affect Red Hat's business, and hopefully now
    > the insane regulations are relaxed, RH7 will include the missing
    > functionality and they'll be on a level playing field for once.
    > I really don't understand why anyone could think that Red Hat would want to
    > 'fight' the inclusion of ReiserFS, though.
    > If anything, I would guess¹ that they'd be including it in their shipped
    > version of the 2.4 kernel even if Linus doesn't, to ensure that no potential
    > customers go off and buy SuSE instead because they need ReiserFS.
    > --
    > dwmw2
    > ¹ Yes, that's a guess. Those who are paying attention may have noticed that
    > I've been bought by Cygnus (i.e. Red Hat), but I am not speaking for them,
    > don't have anything to do with the distribution, and have no clue what's
    > going into it.

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