Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:40:35 -0700 (PDT) | From | M Carling <> | Subject | Re: I vote for updated RAID and KNFSD |
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On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, David Weinehall wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, M Carling wrote: > > > My main point was that the thread had gone on for a dozen posts without > > anyone specifying whether they were talking about 2.2 or 2.3 and how > > clearly this shows that some developers make little if any distinction > > between the developmental and the "stable" series. > > You missed the beginning of the thread, I guess. The reason this thread > came to life was when Alan decided not to include some patches to knfsd & > raid in v2.2.11 (or was it 12?); thus it's pretty clear that we (at least > in the beginning of the thread) was talking of v2.2 kernels.
I think I read the whole thread. At least on the archive aerver, it never mentioned 2.2 or 2.3 until I brought it up.
I was also aware of the earlier RAID thread which was clearly about 2.2. Actually, Alan included the new RAID code and Linus rejected it.
> The problem is, that most people won't use an unstable kernel on > production systems, still they want new drivers to support their hardware. > And it's impossible to keep track of 3 kernel trees; just 2 trees is > almost one too much; some bugfixes takes quite some time to propagate from > one tree to the other.
Production systems already have the drivers they need. If they didn't, they couldn't be running in production, could they?
> > Everyone seems to agree that the "stable" kernels could and should be more > > stable. I've suggested a methodology for achieving increased stability. > > Several posters don't like my suggestion, but they haven't offered an > > alternative. > > The only way to get stable kernels is that more persons test the unstable > kernels in my opinion. The trouble is that the circle of developers that > are most likely to test the kernels have a limited set of hardware, uses a > limited set of software, etc.
Obviously, more testing would help, but how to get more people to test? Also, it is clearly not the _only_ way to get better stability, as I have suggested another way.
M Carling
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