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    SubjectRe: Ext3 filesystem info?
    Helge Hafting wrote:

    > ls is fixable. Possibly by extending "ls -l" to show acl's or at
    > least indicate in some way that acl's are present. The latter may
    > be preferable to avoid script incompatibilities, sonething like this:
    > Arw-r--r-- 1 helge helge 140 Feb 9 1999 .bash_profile
    > The 'A' indicates that acl(s) are present, the user may then use
    > something like "ls --acl" and get the full acl information.

    The much lamented POSIX spec (P1003.2c) used

    -rw-r--r--+ 1 helge helge 140 Feb 9 1999 .bash_profile
    ^ note the plus sign

    figuring that most shell scripts wouldn't pay much attention to
    that particular position in the output. With the "A" scheme
    suggested above you'd have trouble discriminating directories
    and files.

    POSIX specified a special program to see file ACLs. In Irix we
    used "ls -D", because it was available. We rationalized the choice
    by saying it stood for Descretionary Access Control. I personally
    dislike commands with spelled out options, but then I grew up
    using a TeleType, where every keystroke hurt.


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