Messages in this thread | | | Date | Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:25:08 -0400 (EDT) | From | "Mike A. Harris" <> | Subject | Re: Anti-SPAM Suggestion... |
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Due to the very much INFREQUENCY of attacks like this to the l-k mailing list, I don't think ANY action is necessary. The mere THOUGHT of such action is totally the opposite mindset of what we stand for entirely anyways.
Something to ponder:
A school bus is riding a bunch of children home. One of the kids on the bus thinks it would be funny if he pokes his friend in front of him in the bum with his freshly sharpened pencil. A car races in front of the school bus at 80km/h, and the school bus driver slams on the breaks. The kid with the pencil is shot forwards quickly, and his sharp pencil stabs the kid in front of him in the arse. It goes in DEEP and hits some internal organs. The kid is rushed to the hospital, and the injury is taken care of. The parents of the child sue the school board, and bus company, the driver, and anyone else that could possibly have money to rake. There is a government inquiry into this, and public outrage. The government passes a new law that makes it illegal for pencils, pens, and other sharp objects to be allowed outside a pencil case on all school buses in the county.
Sound strange to you? Sound rediculous? How could the government POSSIBLY police this? How could they know if someone has a pencil? Would they actually charge a 8 year old kid with "Subsection 253 subparagraph 3 - Pencil out of case on schoolbus"? This law is not only rediculous, but it is a TOTAL WASTE of taxpayers money, and is 100% unenforceable. It carries NO meaning.
Why did I mention any of this? Because it is a TRUE STORY. The above story I heard on CBC radio about a year or so ago. It happened somewhere in the states, however I don't recall where. If you're interested in verifying it, I'm sure it is on the internet somewhere, most possibly on CNN, or some other large site. The point however is that when we "pass laws" of "make rules and regulations" we often do not solve the problem at all anyways.
For any solution to the problem of l-k being signed on to various mailing lists, I can think of 10 new WORSE problems that it causes. Problems that either affect me directly, or will affect many others on the list, or both.
Lets just get back to business here, FRY the idiot's internet access account through the proper channels, and if necessary, press charges if any such laws that allow such apply. I would consider the attacks to be of the sort that attempt to bring a computer system down. "Computer vandalism" if you will.
Leave the working system WORKING. Change the system, and watch it break. The likelyhood of this kind of problem becoming a regular occurance on l-k is next to nil. I'm sure all of you polititcians out there will love to fix the problem - each in a way that is acceptable to yourself with complete disregard to everyone else and the problems they now face such as not having web browser access all the time, or not wanting to bother with web forms (I know I *WILL* *NOT*). Not all systems even HAVE a browser on them, nor even CAN have. Not all machines are running on x86 hardware you know...
Anyways, go on and argue about this for a month or so. Maybe the arguing will generate even more email than the combined sum of all of the list subscriptions would anyways.
Something else to think about: Even though l-k got subscribed to 200 mailing lists or whatever, I've yet to see a SINGLE posting from ANY of those mailing lists actually enter the l-k mailing list and get exploded. So either l-k is configured in some miraculous way to drop such garbage on the floor, or else the maintainers at vger are incredibly quick and on their toes.
Keep up the good work vger! And don't change a thing, it works great!
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