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    SubjectRe: Norton Utilities for Linux ?
    Something "all under one roof" is definitely needed, IMHO - ef2sck and
    its associated defrag are fine, but there are other programs in NU that
    have "saved my butt" in the past. After having to keep buttocks tightly
    clenched while e2fsck -c did its thing recently, I'd appreciate
    something a little more in-depth...

    I think I must have had a head crash or something (WDC Caviar 21000,
    never again). The kernel started printing out { unrecoverable Error } or
    somesuch, and indeed, e2fsck -c found the offending blocks. Subsequent
    runs did not though - have these blocks been remapped? Is my data good?
    e2fsck still reports that there are errors (haven't dared run it in r/w
    mode yet!).

    How good is the badblocks program? I don't know whether it was
    pretty-user-interface-psychology or not, but I always felt better doing
    a scan with Norton's CALIBRAT or Disk Doctor than when I run e2fsck
    -c.... it used to run (what seemed like) detailed tests of the disk
    controller etc.. Can we do this on Linux, or was it just B.S.?

    How about some program that liaises with the IDE driver in doing heavy
    diagnostics - in fact, why not have a full diagnostic suite for Linux?

    I have a feeling that as Windows progresses through its various
    revisions, the efficacy of such diagnostic software decreases. Older
    versions of diag software could get in at a lower level, methinks. Plus,
    you have to have more and more heavy OS running before you can run your
    diags. Run Norton Disk Doctor on a possibly-damaged filesystem? Sure,
    but you have to have Windows running first, and heaven knows what
    that'll do to your FS before you can get it to a state where you can run
    NDD! At least when it was DOS, we knew what it was doing...

    I suppose there was just less to go wrong, back then. A recent review of
    diagnostic tools in a UK PC magazine said that "most users wouldn't know
    what to do with a hex dump of their FAT" (or words to that effect) - so
    you can expect Norton Disk Editor to vanish from the next version.
    Surely, this is dumbing down: it might be acceptable in the Windows
    world, but we're not like that.

    Is this a relevant discussion on linux-kernel? Not sure, but it needs
    low-level access, and isn't the kernel best placed for this? Sorry if
    I'm just wasting your bandwidth.

    Looking forward to running "The Torvalds Utilities" v1.00!


    Matt J. Gumbley

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