Messages in this thread |  | | | Date | Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:04:35 -0400 (EDT) | | From | Alexander Viro <> | | Subject | Re: (reiserfs) Re: I discussed reading directories as files with jra, |
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On 26 Jun 1999, Kai Henningsen wrote:
> viro@math.psu.edu (Alexander Viro) wrote on 23.06.99 in <Pine.GSO.4.10.9906230022160.17822-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>: > > > On 22 Jun 1999, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > > Wrt. OS/2: > > > > > > Its death is a pure marketing effect: IBM didn't really market it. > > > > Not only. They've failed to leak enough information to create a productive > > culture (see Lions, etc.). BTW, I'm completely serious - AFAICS there is > > nothing similar to UNIX culture around OS/2. There goes the possibility to > > affect future designs. > > AFAICT, the culture was definitely there. And I certainly don't know about > any serious missing information. And it was definitely Uniy-like.
Hmm... It's interesting. At some moment I tried to find a decent description of kernel internals. Most of OS/2 folks I knew were FightoNet sysops and some of them were distinctly non-luserish. I could answer their questions re UNIX-related FM to R. They couldn't. And it wasn't a matter of inability to find books in .su - Lions and (4.3) Daemon Book went in many copies. *That* kind of samizdat was absolutely standard way to get documentation. Hell knows... If you are aware of any decent description of OS/2 kernel - share, OK?
> In fact, back when I was running OS/2, I had ext2 access from OS/2. Plus > *two* different gcc ports. Plus a real GNU tar able to work with my SCSI > tape drive, and all manner of other Unix-like utilities. Not to mention > loads of OS/2-specific utilities. > > IBM killed it. > > They had a PowerPC port that they never marketed at all - I'm told you > could buy it if you somehow manages to get the product number from > somewhere. Their marketing was rather infantile, and got only cheaper. > They delivered hardware and software with better NT than OS/2 support. > > Now if it had been Open Source, it might have survived this.
s/Open/available in/. v6 was not too open, after all. And I'm not sure that AT&T had worked their balls out marketing it.
ObUnrelated: yet another week from hell. Sigh... Ever did over-the-phone handholding for luser who blew the CVS up? Yeah, he had backups. Lots of them. Unfortunately he had fscked the thing up *long* ago. Yup, tried to live with two vendor branches. With usual results. And indeed he claimed that he never did anything like that...
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