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    SubjectRe: RFC: from FIBMAP to FIONDEV
    Matthew Wilcox wrote:
    >> #define FIONDEV_UNSTABLE 2 /* location is temporary (e.g. scratch file,
    > I think FIONDEV_VOLATILE would be a better name here.

    Good idea.

    > I wonder if this is good enough. What do you think to the idea of having
    > an index passed to the routine (initially set to zero) which could be
    > incremented to find all copies of this block? This takes care of RAID-1
    > and RAID 0+1.

    I'm not so sure what to do about RAIDs. In many cases, the boot loader
    wouldn't even know if something is wrong. (And, fortunately, in most
    cases, it shouldn't be affected either.) With more complex RAIDs,
    reconstruction is non-trivial, and in addition you need to know what
    RAID mode you're in, etc.

    Furthermore, there's not enough space in the first stage to do anything
    with RAIDs anyway. So you'll end up with only a partial recovery

    So a useful solution would be more along the lines of creating two or
    more similar but not identical installations of LILO and to have some
    means to switch between them. For maximum reliability, you probably
    want your BIOS to decide which disk is okay, and boot that one.

    Now all this is beyond FIONDEV, because you either need to go to the
    "real" partitions or you need to have some means to select one of the
    redundant "forks" - not only for FIONDEV, but also for reading and

    So in terms of complexity, the best approach is probably to create
    two or more small "normal" partitions on sufficiently different
    drives, and to install LILO, the kernel(s), etc. on each of them.
    Then add whatever is necessary to pick the right one for booting.

    Note that recovery from disk corruption due to an unclean shutdown
    isn't a likely cause of problems, because you're not supposed to
    boot new kernels that frequently on your high availability system in
    the first place ;-)

    - Werner

    / Werner Almesberger, DI-ICA,EPFL,CH /

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