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SubjectRE: [linux-usb] Re: USB device allocation
On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Khimenko Victor wrote:

> AV> Though luck, then. What you are telling boils down to: "I want it; I don't
> AV> give a damn for the problems; code around and I can't be even bothered to
> AV> figure out what those problems _are_." Do you really expect to be taken
> AV> seriously?
>
> Problems are solved by Richard mostly. So far I hear only about one technical
> problem with devfs (from you BTW): problems with VFS (which one BTW: rename is
> not implemented in procfs and procfs is included in kernel; what's is so
> different in devfs?). This is THE ONLY REAL problem. All other problems are

The devfs quasifiles _ARE_ renamable:

=== Cut ===
[root@nomad /dev]# ls cua*
cua0 cua1

cua:
0 1
[root@nomad /dev]# mv cua1 cua3
[root@nomad /dev]# mv cua/1 cua/3
[root@nomad /dev]# ls cua*
cua0 cua3

cua:
0 3
[root@nomad /dev]# mv cua3 cua1
[root@nomad /dev]# mv cua/3 cua/1
[root@nomad /dev]# ls cua*
cua0 cua1

cua:
0 1
=== Cut ===

> myths or political ones. Is it the only reason to not include devfs in kernel ?
> BTW what about devpts and procfs: are they any better from VFS side ? They are
> both in kernel and devpts was added when devfs already existed...

> There are quite a few things in kernel not welcomed by Linus initially.
> But in case with devfs I can not see technical problems at all -- just
> political ones. There are problem with rename, for example, but procfs also
> has it AFAIK. Why it's Ok for procfs and not Ok for devfs ?

The quasifiles in /dev _ARE_ renamable. They are also chownable, chmodable,
cpable, rmable etc. etc....

The "good ol' way" is good only till it doesn't stop the progress. It was
very good to have a live horse as an engine for a cab, but once upon a time
a man called Henry Ford did start to manufacture a new cabs called Ford T and
the live horse had became obsolete...

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