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    SubjectRe: PUBLIC CHALLENGE: (was RE: devfs again, (was RE: USB device a lloc ation) )
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    orc@pell.portland.or.us (david parsons) said:
    > In article <linux.kernel.19991007222450.63507@work.bitmover.com>,
    > Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com> wrote:
    > >One last comment: as far as I can tell, most people aren't against devfs,
    > >they are against the current implementation. The basic idea is useful at
    > >some level. If that is correct, perhaps you're all arguing about nothing
    > >(not that I've ever done that; sigh).

    > Well, the best way to fix the implementation would then be to
    > include it in 2.3.x and let the legion of kernel hackers fix the
    > problems with it.

    Very true. The easiest way to solve _any_ problem is to have somebody else
    do the solving.

    Look, the problems with devfs are of two kinds:

    - It really can't solve the problems it is supposed to solve

    - The implementation might not be up to snuff

    I really don't know about the second point, I'd assume that that is fixed
    by now (it has been more than a year, isn't it?). If not, they can be
    solved by the horde of devfs adicts. No need to involve the kernel hackers
    in this.

    The first one is the real stumbling block, IMO: devfs tries to solve the
    (addmitedly very hard) problem of managing devices (which in turn are just
    proxies for the _data_ they contain/convey, which is what you really want
    to manage) by placing an automated naming system in between. This just
    might be one of the minor building blocks for a solution to the real
    problem (assuming the solution goes through "devices" with "names" that
    look like "files").
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